How did you wind up with the incredible scene later in the series where you turn an internet forum into a Dr. Strangelove war room?
There's so much talk about Sophia's likeability and the real Sophia, but no one's talking about these moods we tried to make. I was very excited about that episode because in the couple of episodes leading up to that, Sophia was getting into fights with a lot of people, and a big one with her boyfriend on that LA trip. I knew she was going to get kicked off of eBay and she and Annie were going to have a big rift, but I didn't want to show Sophia yelling again.
These scenes were that idea of how, on the internet, you can have a full-on argument with somebody and not feel the emotion. You don't see it. Had they had that conversation in front of each other it would not have been as big of a fight. But to say something as cutting as she said with no emotion behind it... like Annie says, "The internet is this horrible place. You're not going to win. The internet's always going to win." And it did.
It would not surprise me if people reading this interview think it's strange that some dude thinks he can talk to a female writer about her new show Girlboss (and, for full transparency, I originally had a female writer lined up to do it). Do you think it's weird?
I'm glad that you did it. I feel like that maybe that's happening a lot with people I've talked to over the phone. You're one of the few guys I've talked to. And, you know, with Pitch Perfect, I just thought I was making a funny comedy and the marketing team was like, "No, this is for young girls. This is for that demographic." I was like, "No, it's going to be for everybody." They were like, "No, no, no, it's for..."
I didn't know what I was doing. But, then you could see that both genders enjoy that movie and it was them coming out of the woodwork and being like, "Oh yeah, my wife or my girlfriend made me watch it and I actually liked it." I think that I'm glad to hear that you like this because it means there's a crossover of content where business-wise I could say to an executive, "No, guys are interested in the things that we are also interested in." It is possible -- and it happens a lot.