The final confrontation between The Defenders and The Hand concludes fairly early in the last episode, with the remaining time focusing on Matt’s death, only to show at the very end that he is alive. Why did you choose to spend so much time on how his death affected the other characters, just to show that he’s alive in the end?
Ramirez: We had so many scenes where we needed to send people back out onto their own. We needed a Karen/Foggy scene, the aftermath of what that means. We needed the kind of post-building-comes-down scene between Colleen and Misty. We needed the post-everything scene between Luke and Jessica. And it really felt like, “Hey, wait, we've got a lot of ground to cover.”
We could either build up story early on and make the climax in the episode happen at the 15-minute mark, then rush the building, or could get the climax of the eight-hour season done, then go back into these two-on-two scenes, which, to me, are just as important, if not more important, than the fight scenes.
For me, one of the emotional climaxes of the show is from Jessica's perspective. She had two really big moments. One, when she comes in at the end of Episode 4 and she just says, "Fuck it, I'm working with you guys." And the other one is at the very, very end, where she sits and has a drink with Luke. They just kind of have this open exchange, this very mature exchange about their romantic past. Yeah, the climax comes a little early in that episode, but there were just so many things that I didn't want to shortchange.
Hopefully the audience will understand what we're doing. We just didn't want to rush anything. The other thing we wanted to be able to do was make sure we're sending everyone off into their own individual shows and send them off in a way that one can go watch Jessica Jones Season 2, Luke Cage Season 2 or now, Iron Fist Season 2, or Daredevil Season 3.