Have you met Billy Joel?
Lazzara: Yes. We met him in November of last year, and him and I joked about Alec Baldwin. It was really great. It was at this Long Island Hall of Fame event, and he came in and we thought he'd just get ushered through, but we ended up getting stuck with one another.
Nolan: He took a picture with us. Talked to him for a couple minutes.
Lazzara: Yeah, like he said something about--
Nolan: "You don't want to date yourself by taking a picture with an old guy like me." Something like that.
Lazzara: We were like, "No, we absolutely do. Mr. Joel."
I want to ask about your tastes in general because I feel like I've never read anything where you've expressed, like, what movies and TV and music you're into.
Lazzara: Ah, well. I'm a big fan of low-brow art -- like Juxtapoz, you'd find it in that magazine, or High Fructose. Kidrobot toys. As far as art goes, that's some of my favorite stuff. John and I, when we shared an apartment together, we'd come into the city to the Angelika Film Center. We saw Memento there.
Nolan: We used to go to the movies all the time.
Lazzara: Yeah, when we weren't playing music, that's what we'd do. That one was great because they'd always play the indie films.
Nolan: Really up until I had kids, I'd usually go to a movie at least once a week, or twice, sometimes. Now, not so much.
Lazzara: I saw Lego Movie 2 last weekend.
Nolan: I saw The Favourite recently.
Nolan: It was really good, but very unsettling.
Lazzara: Yeah, I don't like feeling like that.
Nolan: You definitely walk out like, "I don't know how I feel!" But it was great, an excellent movie.
Lazzara: It reminds me, John used to love Magnolia--
Nolan: Paul Thomas Anderson is one of my favorites, and I used to make people watch Magnolia, and nobody wanted to watch it with me.
Lazzara: I tried to like it so hard, and I just don't. It makes me uncomfortable.
What about music? Are you up on "cool bands"? Do you tend stick to what you already know and love?
Lazzara: It's a little bit of both.
Nolan: We find out about some stuff. The new Phosphorescent album, we've been listening to that a lot. Big Red Machine. I think it's kind of like old-guy rock. It's, like, made for men in their 30s and 40s.
Lazzara: We just did this radio thing and they were like, "Hey, could you cover a current pop song?" I looked at the Top 40, and I'm like, there's not one band on here! I know who Post Malone is, but I didn't know… Maroon 5 was on there but they don't really count as a band anymore because they don't really… play instruments.
It's the Adam Levine show at this point.
Lazzara: Yeah. Which -- handsome guy. Great singer. [Producer] Eric Valentine worked with him and he just went into do overdubs and Eric was telling me, "Man, this guy… nailed it. Got in, got out of there." So he's very talented, but yeah. To me, that doesn't count as a rock band anymore. I just thought that was really interesting, and it honestly made me feel like, "Oh my God, I don't know shit about shit right now."
Wait, so what song did you end up doing?
Lazzara: We ended up just adding this part from this guy called Juice Wrld. Which is crazy, because he spells "juice" normally, but then he spells "world" without the O. It's like, I don't get -- man, you already used all these vowels. Did you have a limit? But I did learn that "Sunflower" song by Post Malone, which is really great. I mean, it's a good song. It's funny, I was telling John, every time I listen to Post Malone, I'm like, "fuck, I love this."
Lazzara: Again, this is judging a book by its cover and just how he's portrayed, he just seems like a caricature sometimes. And I hate that for him, because he does seem to really care about what he's doing.
I gotta say, he killed it at the Grammys, performing with Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Nolan: I saw that!
Yeah, they sounded awful, but he was really good!
Nolan: Yeah, and he actually played the guitar! Which is exciting to see someone playing an instrument.
Lazzara: Other than that, what have you been listening to, John?
Nolan: Better Oblivion Community Center. I keep talking about that everywhere I go. It's excellent. Immediately, I was like, "I'm in."