Apparently you went to the same guys who were advising on the new Top Gun movie to consult about Logan's military background? How did that even happen? What help did they give you?
Dohring: They were pilots! Aviators. You know, I feel like everybody's got one degree of separation to the military somehow, so if you can just find the right person, they know a hundred people who work very closely with the military. It's such a tight group. Like I found somebody at the gym, you know what I mean? And he was like, "I have a friend who is advising on Top Gun." And I'm like, "Oh, fantastic. That's great." So we went down to the San Diego area and had lunch with him, talked to other helicopter and jet pilots, and went on a tour of a base. I was getting the mannerisms down. And I think the more knowledge you can amass about something, the more you're able to control it, you know what I mean? So I was just picking up little details about how they moved, their thought process, their family life, and then all of that is in your reservoir of tools, so you can use it where you will.
One of the things that was great about Logan is his embrace of therapy. He kept trying to get Veronica to join him in a session. If she had, while he was still alive, how do you think it would have gone?
Dohring: Boy! I would like to think that Logan had worked through things enough to learn self-control, control of his emotions. I think he would have been polite, and honestly interested in becoming bitter. I think that's it cool and I always admire the people who can do that. It's pretty incredible, you know? Especially as opposed to other methods he had used. I feel like it was cool he was able to rise above it, pull himself up by his bootstraps, and make a new life. And then not only that, but to try and persist to help somebody else, or touch somebody else.
People don't really talk about this one, but when I was working on this one particular scene, it was really painful. I'm sitting there with Veronica on the couch, and I say something like, "If you're not happy, then I'm willing to end this all right now. If it would make you happy and you could go chase your dreams, because you are more important to me." And I was literally crying in my fucking room, rehearsing that. I was just like, "Jesus." It just hit me in certain rehearsals how deep that would be, to say that as much as I love you, and love this, this is fucking more important to me, and I want that for you, you know what I mean? Even if it means the end of us, you know? That is fucking amazing, dude. And that's a huge being who can do that for somebody else, you know what I mean?
The thing that was hard about mature Logan was playing the straight guy. It was a little easier when I was the cut-up, when I was the fun guy. When Dick Casablancas came on, I kind of wound up being more of the guy who keeps the shit straight, you know? And I think that I enjoyed playing more the loose cannon, the volatile guy. [Laughs] Just as an actor, perhaps there's more to create in that. But once you kind of find the character, it's like a little door, and you remember what got you into that character and you can just pop into it. The light behind your eyes changes, and you can just actually see the world differently, see how he responds to things. John Travolta told me once, "I really know when I have the character because I can improv with him," and I was like, "Dude, that's really cool, man." That can be a good test. Are you able to be him all the time? Can you live like he would? I think that happened for me with Logan very early on, and then we just added things, like for the military and such.